liveDaily Interview: Dee Dee Ramone
Dee Dee Ramone is too tough to die. One of the godfathers of the international punk rock scene, he co-founded the Ramones in 1974, quitting in 1989. Following a short-lived career as a rapper, he spent the '90s playing in his own rock bands such as the Chinese Dragons. However, 2000 has seen him return to punk with the 17-track "Greatest and Latest," which was released in September and comprises classic Ramones tracks--including "Blitzkreig Bop" and "Sheena Is a Punk Rocker"--as well as new material.
liveDaily's Alexa Williamson caught up with Dee Dee Ramone recently and found out the latest Ramones gossip, including the latest on the new movie about the band and Johnny Ramones desire to release a new Ramones album.
LiveDaily: How long did it take to record "Greatest And Latest"?
It was pretty quick--about two months because it was mainly Ramones songs, which I knew already. The main issue was deciding what to play: Should it be old Ramones material or new material? I had about three albums worth of new material, but I knew that people would rather hear the Ramones songs. I was afraid that they wouldnt like my original songs. I like it when Iggy Pop plays his old stuff like "I Wanna Be a Dog," so I know how the fans feel. Monte Robison and Chris Spedding, who produced the album, kept changing their minds. But it was my show, so I made the final decisions on what was played.
We recorded the album at a studio in Hollywood right near my house. It was nice, as I could walk there from home. I like California a lot more than New York these days. Its very expensive to bring a band to New York.
How long have you been working with Chris Spedding, who played guitar on the album, mixed and produced it?
A couple of years. I met him when I went to Toronto and we worked together. I didnt know him when he was working with the Sex Pistols. He is a real producer. I havent done rap with him ... I cant do that too well.
Why did you cover "Cathys Clown"? It really stands out from the fast punk sound of the rest of the album.
I just love that song. I heard it by the Everly Brothers as a kid. Then after the Ramones signed to Sire, I heard it on a Ricky Nelson compilation. I couldnt believe it when he died. He was a great rock star. Then I heard Reba McEntires version and it sounded really good being sung by a woman. I just wanted to record it and so did Barbara, my wife, who played bass on the album.
I also recorded "Jump In the Fire" by Metallica--theyre so demonic, theyre crazy, I dont know how they do it. But the band didnt want to play that--they thought it was too metal.
The new material is very punk-rocky like the Ramones. Have you ever really wanted to get away from the Ramones fast, hell-for-leather style?
What made me like the Ramones again? Well, its like with Billy Idol. I liked his "White Wedding"-era stuff, but I knew him more from [the band] Generation X. I liked the old Ramones music before [producer] Phil Spector did the albums, but I didnt like the music too much after. I got tired of the Ramones around the time I quit and I really got into rap. I thought it was the new punk rock. LL Cool J was my biggest idol.
So I started listening to and playing other music in the 90s. It was after hearing other bands, like Bad Religion, cover Ramones songs that I started to like our songs again. Bands like Mudhoney, the Riverdales and White Zombie got me back into punk.
Do you speak to any of your old bandmates anymore?
I saw Johnny recently. We met on the street in L.A. when he was with his girlfriend, and he said he wants to record another Ramones album. He asked me if I would work with Daniel Rey [who produced the Ramones "Halfway to Sanity" in 1987 and their best-of album "Ramones Mania" in 1988] and I said no. He also asked me if Id play on the album but I said no, I think C.J. [Ramone] should. However, I told him Id be happy to give them some songs. Im not sure how serious he is about a new album, and Im not sure if Joeys voice is up to it; its a little worn out.
We also talked about the new Ramones movie that is going to start filming next year. "Sidewalk Surfin," which appears on my new album, was originally written for the movie. They needed the song quick though, so I had Chris do an instrumental version and gave them that.
How was your European tour this past April? Do you like being on the road?
Nice. I didnt want to go at first, because I was tired of touring, and a few years ago when I played in Sweden and Norway, I didn't seem very popular at the time. But the promoter, who was also my friend, strong-armed me into the tour. I was playing every night, mainly Ramones songs, and the audiences really liked it. We sold out many dates and all the Americans I was with didnt want to go home. We didnt do an American tour because it I know it wouldnt go down well.
Which do you like better--doing lead vocals and guitar, or playing bass?
I like the guitar better these days. I like the bass, too, but its hard to fit a bass amp in a small car. Barbara likes to play the bass in my band, and Im going to get Jimmy Vapid from the Canadian band the Vapids to come play guitar with us. He sounds like Johnny. Ive also asked C.J. [to play] in three different bands, but he keeps saying no. All of the Ramones want their own bands now.
How did you and Barbara write "Sidewalk Surfin"--together or did you write it then present it to her?
I taught her the same way I taught the Ramones. I gave her the outline of the song, coached her through it, and then left her alone to learn it. About 25% of the effort for the song came from Barbara. Shes still young and argumentative, like a kid in a way. I dont like that when were playing. I know whats best for me and my band. But then again, I try to be nice. Part of the privilege of being in a band is giving something back to the young people. If you can do anything for them, you should. Generally though, I dont write with a lot of people anymore because it takes too much time.
So whats your next project?
Im going back to New York on Nov. 1 to promote my autobiography "Lobotomy," which will be coming out, and Ill probably see Joey and Marky. The Ramones movie starts filming in January, and I plan to tour Europe next spring. I used to have escape fantasies about leaving the music business, but last night I told Barbara that I wanted to keep playing for another three years as Im getting good support from the record company.
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